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Ladies and gentlemen, legendary the Mentors speak out!

For the beginning

If this interview could take place anywhere, anytime, where would we be doing this interview? What would be in your glass?

That is a great question! I am a student of history and so there are a lot of places and times from the past to choose from. I think doing the interview at a Roman orgy with Caligula with some nice wine in my glass would be a fun thing to do. Or at some location like the War room with Prime Mister Churchill during WWII with some brandy.

For those who for some odd reason don’t know about the Mentors, how would you describe the band? What are the Mentors all about?

The Mentors are a band that started in 1976 by myself (Steve Broy, aka Dr. Scum), El Duce (Eldon Hoke) and Sickie Wifebeater (Eric Carlson). We play heavy rock and roll with lyrics mostly about sex and other controversial topics. We started to do this when people sang about stupid things and also the music people played in many cases wasn’t that good also.

What do you think of heavy metal band nowadays?

Its is not as good as it was. There is too much de-tuning for my ears. The few good bands out there are old men. Music changes as time goes on and what sounds good to the young people does not sound good to the old people in most cases. I’m not young now, I am 56 years old and my taste is not what the kids listen to these days so much.

Who are the best and the worst put under that label and why?

The best heavy metal bands are Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, and Van Halen in my opinion. There have been many other good ones also besides these three. Kiss is a good band. As far as what is the worst heavy metal band, there are some ones not so good, but the worst heavy metal band is still far better than the best hip hop/rap act. So even bands I used to hate in the 80’s now I would listen to since there is nothing else right not. I never myself cared much for Twisted Sister or Def Leppard. However, I do not want to criticize any band, especially any rock band right now, because there are so few of them.

How you came up with the executioner hoods?

hoodsIt was the idea of our first drummer, El Duce, who liked horror movies, there was a movie called Mark of the Devil that he loved that showed men in hoods doing bad things. He thought this was great and wanted out band to wear hoods.

Have members of the KKK commented on your hoods at any time?

Yes, some Nazis and KKK people think we are with them because of this. Which we are not. The band is not a racist band and we have black and jewish friends. I don’t like racism I know some people who were big racists who grew out of it. Lets face it, the music we play came from black music, from black gospel church music. That is where rock and roll came from. So if you play rock music and you are a racist, you are maybe not knowledgeable.

What kind of ideas for live shows you’ve thought about that you haven’t manifested – maybe just yet?

Well, the budget for our shows is limited and so we do the best we can with no money. It would be nice to have sex on stage with some nice looking girls during a drum solo. Which has happened a few times.

How is the band politically inclined? Clearly, you are not conservatives and that you are politically incorrect in many people’s eyes. Do you vote? Who have you voted? What do you think of politics in general?

I can’t speak for the other members of the band; I don’t know what they think on this topic. Generally I am not with the conservatives since they usually don’t want people to have sex, watch porno, or smoke pot, plus they want to have wars. So I am for the political parties that are in favor of sex, drugs and not having war. I do vote and usually I would vote for the Democratic Party, which is left wing in USA. There is a philosophical difference between the right wing party and left wing, in which right wing claims they want to reduce taxes and government regulations. But the right wing party also wants people to go to jail for smoking pot and having sex, which I do not agree with. I do not like paying high taxes myself but I realize we have to pay something to the government.

I suppose you, as the kings of sleaze, watch porn. Favorite movies, magazines or actresses? Do you collect porn?

I like the Dirty Debutante series of porno movies by Ed Powers.

What are the best strip clubs around over there?

I am not so much into going to strip joints since the women try to strip the money from my wallet while they strip off their clothes. My wife used to be stripper though. I met her at the Ivar Theatre in Hollywood where El Duce worked as the light man and announcer. I like to watch nice ladies dance and strip to rock music but now they do not do that, it is rap music, and that is not good for me.

What are real men and women like?

To me real men and real women are people you can have an interesting conversation with. I like meeting people. When I was young I was very shy and would not talk to anybody but now I am very outgoing and friendly and enjoy people.

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The El Duce years

elduceWhat was El Duce like? What he was like in person, in private?

El Duce was known to the public as a very funny and friendly person who like to drink alcohol. In private he struggled with being an alcoholic and tried to quit many times. Drinking too much is what led him to an early grave. He was a fantastic musician and loved to listen to music. He was somebody that had many friends, and was always fun to be around.

During the El Duce years the band appeared in the Jerry Springer Show and Hot Seat with Wally George. The interviews are now legendary. What happened outside of the camera? How were Jerry and now past George off the camera?

The Wally George interviews were fake, since Wally met with the band before the show and discussed with us what would be said once the show started. Wally was a very nice man. On camera he took on a different personality.

Can you tell us about some previously unheard stories about El Duce?

I’m saving the best ones for my book, a biography of El Duce, coming out in early 2015, called El Duce, The Truth is Funnier than Fiction.

In the mid 1990’s, El Duce claimed that Courtney Love had offered him $50,000 to kill her husband Kurt Cobain, whose death was ruled a suicide. What’s the truth behind all of this?

This is not true, it was a made up story to sell magazines. El Duce was paid to say this. But because Courtney love is so crazy, people think it is true. Even her own father used to call El Duce to discuss this with him.

How many replies you got to ”the dream date contest”? How people reacted to it?

Woman are dumb, but not that stupid. Nobody applied for this.

What is El Duce’s place in the history of rock ‘n’ roll?

You know, only the people in the future can say that. I think myself he did quite a bit to change the nature of lyrics use in rock music. We sang about topics that up until that time, nobody else would sing about. El Duce, myself and Sickie set our goal to become a great band, whose music would stand the test to time and outlive us all. Unfortunately when you set a goal like that, there is no way to know if you succeed or not.

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After El Duce

mentors2How the band has changed after El Duce passed away?

We have kept going and keep doing new music. There is a big change of course because El Duce is not writing most of the lyrics. His lyrics were very good and it is hard to write lyrics as good as he did.

PMRC and some others have expressed bad feelings about your lyrics over the years. What are the highlights of this kind of actions thus far? Was it reading of Golden showers on the congressional floor? Do people and organizations give this kind of critique mostly online or do they have courage also to give the feedback in person?

Oh, some people will tell us to our face we are terrible. But over the years, people has sort of have gotten used to us, and maybe we are not as shocking as we once were. We didn’t invent Golden Showers; people were doing this kind of thing before the Mentors.

You have released eight albums thus far. Which one you consider your best and why?

Well we have done 8 Mentors albums, plus I have done a number of solo albums and also albums with El Duce and myself. I love them all; it is really hard to pick a favorite one. Maybe my favorite is El Duce/Booze and Broads.

What does the Mentors backstage rider include?

Red Wine, Perrier Water, and pizza usually.

What kind of groupies do the Mentors get nowadays? What kind of women are the Mentors fans?

Well, I am married so I’m not doing the groupie thing, but we do have women fans who are very nice. Some of them want to have sex with the band for sure. I have found that smart nice women are Mentors Fans and they show good taste in men by wanting to have sex with Mentors. They might have sex with the other guys in the band.

The wildest live shows you have done thus far? What have happened?

We have been playing shows for close of 40 years, so many crazy things have happened. Sex on stage, sex backstage, people in the band passing out, vomiting and fighting with each other. People getting stabbed, and killed. Many horrible things and many nice things also.

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The Future

dirtyrottenpervertsWhat kind of future plans does the band have? New album in making? Are you going to Europe at some point? Have you been asked to play here in Finland yet? What kind of thoughts Finland brings to your mind?

Well, I don’t know about the Mentors album. I would like to do that, we will see. I write songs all the time and record them and release them, whether it is with Mentors or my solo band. I will be releasing a new solo album very soon, called Dr. Heathen Scum/Going Off Half Cocked.

As far as Finland, yes we want to play there. Maybe our dream will come true to play Finland in 2015. For anybody that wants to talk to me about it, write me at sbroy@aol.com or our booking agent Keith at keith@shredheadinc.com

Have you ever heard of Pekka Siitoin, a past Finnish devil worshipping neo-nazi cult figure and the national king of sleaze who wanted to be the first Finnish person to have sex with an space alien woman, who claimed to have had sex with over 800 women, and who did have sex in front of his followers, who made first amateur porn movies in the country, who appeared in numerous Finnish men’s magazines over the years and who called himself ”rivologi” (that roughly translates into ”pervologist”)?

No I did not hear about this person. He sounds interesting. I will look into it.

If you could pick any artist or band to play with you, who would you like to warm up for your gig?

Well, normally I don’t watch the opening bands at our shows because I’m not so interested. I like many bands however, the great rock bands, Led Zep, Stones, Iggy and the Stooges, Slade, the list can go on forever. If I had to pick one quickly, I would say The Rolling Stones.

There are some documentaries about the band done. Which one of them is the best thus far? Are there new ones in making?

To be honest, I’m not aware of any full-length documentaries on our band. We are making one right now with a lady named April Jones. You can see a trailer for it on YouTube. Search The Mentors Rockumentary.

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Mesikämmen thanks Dr. Scum of the Mentors for the interview!

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Related:

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blutleuchte

I made an interview with Gerhard Hallstatt earlier this year. Among other things I asked Gerhard about his book Blutleuchte. If you want to have a good introduction to the following brief book review, I recommend you to read the interview.

Blutleuchte is a compilation of Gerhard Hallstatt’s writings from the 90’s. The texts appeared originally in Gerhard’s pre-internet era Aorta and Ahnstern publications, which were ”home-made bi-lingual booklets done with typewriter, copying machine, and stapler”, to quote Ph.D. Joscelyn Godwin who wrote foreword to the book. Twenty nine issues of Aorta and Ahnstern were published altogether.

The 324-page book is a nice, stylish hardcover, not a product of ”kitchen-table industry” like the original publications. The English edition of the book, published by :AJNA:, is printed on soft recycled paper with wine red and chestnut brown text. Binding is in red cloth and on the front cover there is a duo-tone inset photo. The book contains sixteen pages of b/w-photos from Gerhard’s archives.

The book’s description contains the following info on its contents:

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photoplates2Foreword by Joscelyn Godwin

Lucifer Rising: Kenneth Anger

Konnersreuth- Therese Neumann and her bleeding stigmata.

Night of the Stigmata- the pagan drums of Calanda.

Anubis- focusing on one art performance of Joseph Bueys.

Schwarzkogler- of the Aktionists, including an interview with Hermann Nitsch.

Karl Maria Wiligut.

Katharsis- The Search for Otto Rahn.

Castel del Monte.

Corneliu Codreanu.

The Blue Light: Leni Riefenstahl.

Montsegur- the Cathar caste.

Z’ev- rhythmajik; with an interview.

Storm Songs- Gardner, Clutterbuck and the witches who kept Hitler from attacking Great Britian.

Blutleuchte- Alfred Schuler and his cult of the Blutleuchte.

Leonora- Max Ernst’s lover and muse.

Angizia.
Fidus.
Mithras.
photoplates3Blood Axis- with an interview with Michael Moynihan.

Oskorei- the article that originally appeared in Lords of Chaos, including an interview with Varg Vikernes.

Viktor Schauberger- “green visionary”, “technosophical revolutionary”, flying disc pioneer.

Lucifer Rising- an interview with Kenneth Anger.

Baptism of Fire- Ernst Jünger.

Hidden World.

Heidnat : Heathan Homeland.

Brown Magic- a scatological piece.

Field of Force- crop circles.

Feathered Dreams- a psychdelic journey brough on my “narrische Schwammerln”.

Andreas Epp- flying discs, UFO’s, BMW and strange alliances after WWII.

Blutleuchte should be viewed as a meta-historical compendium. The book becomes a romantic vision of Gerhard’s own personal take on many topics that have inspired many and grown into popular themes within the industrial, neo-folk, heathen and black metal underworlds.

Gerhard’s research, along with magical-mystery tours to various cultic sites and interviews with prime players in the world of art, music and culture, culminate in a passionate narrative drawn from primary documents, heretical and sacred writings, philosophical treatises, psychotropic experimentations, and experiential learning.

The book works through Gerhard’s enthusiasms for various persons and movements, religious sites, architectural accomplishments, natural mysteries, celebratory festivals and scientific advancements.

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Throughout the book there is a strong and evident current against what Gerhard calls Panzermaterialismus. He explains the word in a footnote: “Panzermaterialismus – A word I invented. There used to be the term Panzerkommunismus – for communists conquering the world not with ideology but with the power of tanks. Panzer means tank. It is a metaphor for a brutal capitalism/materialism”.

Gerhard is an artist who seeks beyond the mere material, evident reality. The articles reflects this in fine descriptions of subjective experience in Gerhard’s search. The articles are a fascinating record of a romantic, esoterically inclined seeker. Those who share this spark with Gerhard will find this book very inspiring. Those who are familiar with Gerthard’s music will get a whole new dimension to it with what this book contains.

This is a unique and beautiful book. I highly recommend it.

photoplates

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Related:

Write with blood: Gerhard Hallstatt speaks!

Aorta mail-order in Facebook.

Blutleuchte in Facebook.

Blutleuchte reviewed by Gangleri.

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nurembergthelastbattleNuremberg: the Last Battle (Focal Point, 1996) by David Irving is a very thought provoking book. It is well researched and written and gives a good larger context and view on what happened before, during and also after the trial.

The book can be found as a free pdf-book from Irving’s webpage where it can also be ordered as a regular book. I highly recommend it for anyone interested in the subject.

While the book is throughoutly fascinating from cover to cover I would suggest one to read at least its pages 35-39 (60-66 in the free pdf-book) where Irving summarises how there were few crimes listed in the indictment of the German war criminals, as finally drawn up in October 1945, of which one or other of the four prosecuting powers was not itself guilty.

The list of these crimes should give everyone some fresh reminders of a deep hypocrisy so common in politics. Some keywordwords here: Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Dachau massacre, Soviet Unions unprovoked attack on Finland, Katyn massacre, Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, Churchill’s 1939 and 1940 orders for unrestricted naval warfare, Churchill’s 1940 orders for the invasion of Norway, British troops machine-gunning the fleeing survivors of the German fleet auxiliary Altmark in April 1940 and those of the sinking minesweeper Ulm in September 1942, Churchill’s orders for military occupation of Iceland in 1940 and of Persia in August 1941, bombing of Hamburg, Dresden and Pforzheim, sinking of German refugee ship Cap Arcona, and so on (see the pdf-book’s pages 60-66).

See Wikipedia’s summary of criticism against the Nuremberg trial from here.

In the closing remarks of the book Irving writes:

The world saw Nurenberg as the old-fashioned practise of the victors putting the vanquished to the sword, behind a facade of retroactive law and elegant speeches. As the years passed this view was entrenched by the absence of similar trials where aggressive war was clearly established. The Soviet Union planned an aggressive campaign against South Korea, but as the New York Times was to comment in 1951: ‘A powerful aggressor, if undefeated in war, cannot and will not be punished.’ (page 312, pdf-book’s page 452).

When the armed forces of Britain, France and Israel conspired together and lauched their attack on Egypt in 1956, Rudolf Hess’ lawyer Alfred Seidl inquired of the British Foreign Office whether the British prime minister Eden was to be brought before any tribunal to account for himself. The tragic truth was that Nuremberg had set no real precedent in international law. A resolution presented in 1946 to the United Nations Organisation relating to the codification of the principles established at Nuremberg was referred to the organisation’s International Law Committee, and buried without ceremony” (page 312, pdf-book’s page 452).

Well, maybe Nuremberg effected the international law more than Irving gives it credit, but… can you think of some countries and their war criminals (in addition to those mentioned above) after the second world war being guilty (and still not put on trial anywhere) of the same or similar crimes of which the nazis were indicted for and sentenced of at Nuremberg? (as a reminder, those nazis were indicted for: 1) participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of a crime against peace, 2) planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression and other crimes against peace, 3) war crimes, 4) crimes against humanity). I can easily think of a country or two like that…

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It was time to ask from Alan Cabal a report about the state of mankind again. In addition to that you will also learn the truth about what will really happen at the end of 2012.

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Hello Al, how are things in “the land of the free and the home of the brave”, “the number one” in democracy, rights, and the general good quality of life?

The fourth largest manufacturer of guns in America, Sturm Ruger & Co., is unable to keep up with demand and is suspending sales until they can fulfill orders. It’s an election year here, so naturally the national conversation has turned away from such trivial matters as the collapsing economy, our descent into a full-blown fascist dictatorship, and the endless, ever-expanding wars and refocused on the issues that excite Americans even more than AMERICAN IDOL or DANCING WITH THE STARS: gay marriage, abortion, and contraception.

It appears to be open season on young black men in Florida, but I suspect that has always has been the case there.

I heard that The NY Press has deleted your articles online. Is this true? What has happened and why? If they have deleted your articles is there any place where they could still be found?

The NY Press online archive has been deleted in its entirety. It isn’t just my work that got deleted. There’s something on the internet known as “the wayback machine”, which stores deleted websites. Perhaps it is preserved there. I am an ephemeral phenomenon, my life is a form of performance art. I have no interest in being mummified.

What do you think are the biggest bullshit news right now in the mainstream media? What is really going on? What are the most important depelopments in the world right now that the mainstream media keeps quiet about and that people should really pay attention to?

The USA is a sham democracy. Our elections are rigged. Wall Street owns both political parties. The so-called “electoral process” is nothing but a puppet show. This country is acting in direct violation of every principle of international law. It is a corrupt rogue empire in possession of the most dangerous arsenal ever assembled and embarked upon a relentless campaign of bloodshed and destruction in the service of Zionism and the corporate psychopaths that rule over us.

Your comments on the US presidential election process at this point?

At least the Three Stooges were funny.

Your thoughts on the Occupy movement? Has it become frozen now after its good start? What would keep the fight vital and develop the cause?

A national strike might work. If every American stopped working for a week, we could take our country back from the oligarchs.

If every American stopped working for a week, we could take our country back from the oligarchs.

Many people feel that the world is gigantically fucked up and that “something should be done”. What do you think why things haven’t really changed, why the big time bullshit keeps going on and nothing really changes? What should be done that the bullshit would really be cleaned?

Workers of the world, stay home for a week. Don’t buy anything for a week. That would do it.

What do you think the world will look like by the end of this year?

The sky will be overflowing with flying unicorns shitting rainbows, honey badgers will occupy the corridors of power looking for snakes to eat, cats will complete their infestation of the internet, the Nazis will return from the moon to an apologetic world, the entire Kardashian family will commit ritual suicide, California will be submerged in a sea of red ink, and Israel will be destroyed by a spaceman named Klaatu and his robot companion. All will be well.

If you could send a message to some “united aliens” or such a body in the universe, what would you ask them to do for our planet at this point of the history?

Please kill all of the billionaires on this planet. Bring pot.

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Thank you, Al!

Song for the day: Pink fluffy unicorns dancing on rainbows.

P.S. Be sure to check also other Alan Cabal entries of the blog!

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I recently published an interview with Dominick Crowley of My Swastika -documentary and Alexa MacDermot’s article on Irish Swastika reclaimationists. In the process I came up with the name ManWoman again and again – and the more I heard of him, the more I got interested in him. I checked his website and YouTube-channel and eventually sent some questions to him. Here, ladies and gentlemen, ManWoman speaks! 卐

Background

As a brief introduction to those who don’t know you – who are you and what do you do?

I’m a controversial, renegade Canadian artist, poet and mystic. As a young man, I had mysterious mystical experiences which awakened me to a much deeper vision of life and art. Now I’m being honoured around the world, chiefly for my efforts to reclaim the sacred swastika and repackage the spiritual.

You are from Canada – What is life like there?

Canada is full of nice people but not much culture (indigenous culture suffers from annihilation) because we have all come from elsewhere and it takes centuries to build an identity. We play hockey and hang animal corpses on our living room walls.

What is your favorite color and why?

In my dreams I was always wearing yellow, driving yellow cars, finding yellow things. For me yellow is the colour of the lover, the source of life, illumination, when the soul is filled with inspiration and creativity and blessing.

What inspires you as an artist?

Spiritual experiences and dreams, beauty and truth.

What do you aim to achieve with your art?

I express a deep part of myself, so deep that it is no longer about the small “me” but about the inner self that belongs to all beings 卐

Swastika and things related

Your relationship to Swastika is a spiritual one. Tell us about the spiritual experience that got you started in this – what happened, where and when? What is the “Secret doctrine of the Holy Fuck” involved? How this experience changed your life?

At the age of 27, in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta, 5 Feb 1965, in the Mountain View Motel, I went into a trance that night and my spirit soared up into what I call the Womb of the Sacred, where I was surrounded by fiery beauty and exciting power like rolling thunder. I thought I was dying and was extremely frightened until I surrendered to it and was drawn up into a radiant light that is the absolute formless being, the Self. I call it Secret Doctrine of the Holy Fuck so it doesn’t get confused with religion which our world suffers from. It was a state of love, ecstasy and oneness with the Nameless One.

I tried to tell my wife, my friends, my relatives, about this wonderful awaken in my soul. They edged away as if I had caught some terrible disease. A local priest told me I was insane and needed to turn myself in. I had walked away from church during my art school days and his words made me realize religion will never bring about such a creative experience. I decided I would be who I truly was even if the whole world shunned me as my friends were now doing. By the way, no drugs were involved in any of my experiences, which continued almost daily for a year.

Your artist name is ManWoman. In your videos Art talk and The real me was never born you talk about feminine aspect of Swastika and its importance. Does your artist name represent your spiritual work – effort to bring feminine and masculine energies together in a harmonious way?

During my visions all opposites melted into each other. In the dreams that followed, I was always both male and female and the dream people called me ManWoman. I was told this was my real name and I don’t need to tell you how I struggled with the idea of going through life with this name. It ruined my art career.

Swastika is evidently the most important symbol, spiritual symbol, to you. Are there some other symbols that are special to you? Why Swastika is the most important symbol to you?

My art is full of symbols, archetypes that point to an inner world which cannot be communicated but only hinted at. In dreams, the swastika became the symbol for that vortex of love and truth that embraced my soul in the Womb of the Sacred.

"God cannot be represented by any image. This was my best effort (1965)."

How would you describe your spirituality? What do you believe in? I’ve got an impression that you do not much appreciate formal religions, seeing that genuine spirituality should not (or could not) be put in strict boxes that formal religions are. I’ve got an impression that you have quite shamanistic basic touch in your spirituality with some buddhist influences – Am I correct?

I would say you could see many religions in my spirituality because I’m talking about the primal experience that all founders of all religions must have experienced. I’m very open ended and experimental. My initiation into it was through a shamanistic trance, although I had no teachers and this all came at me like a bolt from the blue. – pure without the baggage of tradition or scripture or doctrine.

Buddhism has no deity but the inner Buddha which is in us all – I like that. Hinduism has so many deities that everything is holy – I like that. My experiences can be compared to what Hindus call Kundalini Shakti – the release of the sacred feminine snake up the spine to levels or chakras of illumination. I like the Sufi way of honouring the sacred wherever it is found.

I detest all religions which use their god like a club to bully all others into submission to a set of stupid mindless beliefs and are willing to die for world domination of same stupid beliefs. So many perpetrators have “god” in their back pocket to justify their actions.

If you would meet the pope, Richard Dawkins, and Dalai Llama, what would you tell them?

Gentle Swastika (1984)

I had to Google Richard Dawkins – what person of intelligence seeing all the horrors and perpetration done by religion in our world wouldn’t choose to be atheist? I would tell the pope to kiss my ass. If he’s Christ’s representative on earth then I’m the Virgin Mary. I detest what has been imposed on the innocent and the gullible by the Catholic church. I like the Dalai Lama because he promotes loving kindness. It is cute that you spelled his name Llama like the animal from South America – soft and furry.

Ah, yes, I spelled that wrong, heh! In addition to your paintings and poetry you have also written three books. What are they about?

Gentle Swastika: Reclaiming the Innocence, a history of the worldwide uses of the swastika and my vision to restore it to its sacred purpose.

Homesick For Eternity, the autobiography of my awakening years, the trials, the bliss, the astonishment, illustrated by paintings of my visions.

Midnite Freak Show: Art, Poetry and Dangerous Mysticism, my poetry plus another series of paintings.

You have been called the father of Swastika reclaimationists. How do you feel about this? Did you get the call to start to work for reclaimation of Swastika immediately during the “Swastika experience” you had, or did that call develop gradually after the experience?

I believe I earned the title “father” of the Reclaim the Swastika movement the hard way with over 40 years of being tattooed with swastikas, teaching, networking, holding the hard place of opposing all the enormous prejudice against the swastika. And sometimes angry confrontations. It takes courage.

A wise old man with white hair, white beard, and white clothes, marked my throat in a dream and asked me to restore the swastika to its holy meanings. I nearly choked because I had Polish relatives taken to Auschwitz during the war. My mother said, when she sees a swastika, it cuts right through her. Still, I won her with the evidence I accumulated for a sacred swastika.

The Waitress From Swastika Café

Has the reclaimationist work become easier as we have got more distance from WW II – or has it stayed the same or even become more difficult as the West has become more “politically correct”?

Holocaust survivors and veterans of the war are dying off. The younger generation is looking for a cause and seeking a new world view, so yes, it is spreading beyond my expectations. Political correctness will never stifle this vision. Even young Jews are joining the cause.

As reclaimationists in general, you are not happy about what Nazis did with Swastika. This is evident for example from your videos To hell with Hitler and Sacred Swastika. How often people get upset from your Swastikas? Do people “get it” easily when you start to explain to them what Swastika is really all about?

I’m not comfortable with being called a reclamationist, which suggests a particular single group. There are many people who want to see the swastika restored – Native peoples in Canada and USA, Mayans, Western Buddhists, Western Hindus, various Pagan groups, the Tattoo community and worldwide youth and rock ‘n’ roll culture – it’s hard to put us all in one pot.

What have been the best things that have happened for Swastika reclaimationists during the last decades? The worst?

Photo by Bobby Neal Adams for Re/Search #12, Modern Primitives, 1989.

My interview in RE/Search Modern Primitives reach a vast audience among the tattoo community, which helped the idea spread to many countries. Ongoing ignorance of the true meaning is the worst contributor. The release of the My Swastika documentary that started at the Tattoo Festival in Cobh, Ireland in 2010 will be another huge boost to public education. Since the Irish Festival, interviews with me have been published in magazines from UK, Ireland, France, Germany.

What does it tell about that Swastika is in the West still associated with Nazis? In addition to the obvious historical associations, are there some deeper level spiritual or other currents that are connected with this? Does this kind Western mentality involved with Swastika’s association with Nazis manifest some deep spiritual, cultural and other problems that we in the West are dealing with today? Or is this kind of question not meaningful, are those things not really connected?

What happened in WWII cannot be erased but brave people who choose to use the symbol for new or restored old meanings are what will really make a shift in the overall consciousness around the swastika. No one will remember WWII forever.

Think of the most sacred thing in your life
think of the most precious thing
and put the swastika into that place
Put the swastika into your heart.
Put the swastika on your altar.
Put the swastika on the image you use
to represent God, love, peace, or the cosmos.
Put the swastika on the thing that makes you happy.
You will begin to see what the swastika has meant to humans
over this entire planet for all of our human history.
For these places are exactly the places it occupied
for thousands of years until the Second World War,
when it fell victim to a chronic infection.
I say to hell with Hitler –
me and my friends are taking it back!

ManWoman

When the day comes that Swastika is reclaimed, what will that world be like? How it differs from today’s world?

The swastika exists in so many cultures, it is part of the collective unconscious as Carl Jung realized. We will be inwardly richer not having our most sacred sign stolen by an evil war. In the orient, the swastika has never been lost so this issue is mostly a problem for those nations touched by the Nazi regime.

You have a massive collection of Swastika related items in your Swastika Museum. What kind of items you have and how many items you have all in all? Is your Swastika Museum open to the public? Are there some special Swastika items you would like to get into your museum?

Lucky Swastika cigar box blankets in ManWoman's Swastika Museum.

My museum is just in my front room. People do drop in for a visit. It is not a formal museum. I have many drawers full, walls covered, filing cabinets and trunks – Victorian jewelry, turn of the century postcards, Navaho rugs, baseball caps, thousands of items. I have never counted them all. I have most of the important items. I’m not collecting more. In fact, I have been giving some away to my supporters. People can see some of the items on my YouTube videos.

Do you have any Nazi-Germany Hakenkreuzes in your collection or have you decided to not include them? Why yes or no?

When I first started in 1967 several people offered me Nazi stuff. I refused.

Later in 1985, three of my first swastika penpals and I met at the home of Carolyn O’Neil, the town historian of Swastika, Ontario, Canada. There was Douglas Youngblood from Chicago, a researcher, and Alfred Harbich, who called himself Guru Svastika, a German artist. We had many heated arguments about not including Nazi items. Carolyn and I did not want any Nazi items. The others argued for showing the complete history. We left with no agreement. I have none in my collection. My purpose was to create The Friends Of The Swastika and any tainted items would sabotage all my efforts.

You are part of the forthcoming documentary My Swastika. What kind of part you have in the documentary? What kind of hopes and expectations you have for the documentary?

I’m featured and interviewed about the visions and the long journey I have been on with the Swastika. I was guest speaker at two tattoo festivals in Ireland and also an underground music festival in Denmark where I showed slides and talked about the symbol. I believe this documentary will ignite an even bigger expansion to the save the swastika movement.

ManWoman gives a talk about Swastika. 2nd Traditional Tattoo And World Culture Festival, Cobh, Co Cork, Ireland. June 3rd-6th 2011.

You took part to the 2nd Traditional Tattoo And World Culture Festival in Ireland this year. How was it? What kind of Swastika reclaimationist program and activities there were?

I have never used the term Reclamationist which is now being dubbed on us. This is a grassroots movement with no preconceived agenda. There were many playful swastikas, a swastika prayer ritual, swastika medicine wheel, swastika prayer flags and banners, swastika tattoos, swastika clothing, swastika cakes and cookies, swastika chocolate-covered marzipan handed out like communion wafers. My wife Astarté built a swastika-shaped garden in a small sacred grove where we did the prayer tie ceremony. All create by various individual with no organized plan. It was a Swastika Happening.

What is Swastika, that ancient sacred symbol, all about, in its core?

It speaks of the source of our being, our cycles of incarnation, transformation, celebration and enormous blessings 卐

Future

What kind of plans you have for the future as an artist, as a Swastika reclaimationist?

I don’t really have plans. I’m networking with swastika people all over the globe. Sometimes the person who plants the seeds isn’t the one who reaps the harvest. I follow my vision and now it’s up to the Great Mystery to unfold it’s plans. I do not take credit for something that is inspired by the Spirit.

What makes you happy?

Being who I truly am without compromise or fear or common sense 卐

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Thank you for the interview, ManWoman! 卐

All pictures used in the interview are from ManWoman’s webpage, except the one from 2nd Traditional Tattoo And World Culture Festival, which is from The Gentle Swastika Collective blog.

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